Show Dog Collars And Leads
Has there been a change in training methods in the last 10-15 years?
Is it just my experience with the trainers I’ve dealt with, or has there been a shift in training methods in the last 10-15 years?
I remember when I was training dogs in 4-H around 10-15 years ago, treats and baiting were a huge “no-no”. We used only praise. And it was just unquestioned that we used choke-chains for obedience, show-leads for showmanship (similar to confirmation in execution; except the handler is being judged, not the conformation of the dog), and flat-collar for agility.
Now, every single trainer I know of uses either treats or clickers. And it seems almost nobody uses choke-chains anymore.
Is it just the trainers I’ve happen to come across, or has there really been a big switch?
If there has been a shift, what is your opinion of the change in training method trends?
st.lady37, Don’t get me started on what I think we are doing to our children by being so soft and un-disciplinary to them! I could rant for hours!
An excellent question. I will be as brief and direct as I can on it. Yes, training methods have changed, typicaly for the worse, yes, dogs are not as well trained because of the new training methods that require clickers, food and negotiating with an animal that cannot possibly comprehend anything on a human level, at least not the way it is taught today.
People are quoting all these new “experts” and are forgeting that training has been around for a long time before these people showed up at the scene to “enlighten” us.
A dog is capable of two very basic types of learning. He can learn drive moods and involuntary reactions, classical conditioning, and he can learn simple skills, instrumental conditioning.
Either method can be used, however, I believe it is impossible to teach a dog an exersice reliably, if, at some point in time, avoidance behavior is not used as reinforcement, meaning, complete training is not possible without the use of compulsion. The skilled trainer, however, knows very well how to administer compulsion in the correct dosage and with direction.
The important thing to remember is this: The handler uses the correct appetence, the correct trigger stimulus and the correct drive goal as reinforcement!!
Today we have people who are aversive to prongs and Electric collars as traiing tools without understanding anything about their use or having ever used them before and as a result of that behavior and the refusal to train or see a dog as an animal has resulted in more dogs sitting at the pound then ever before. What does that say about todays traiing methods?
ADD: Stacy, what happens when you recall a marine or zoo animal and he does not respond? He simply goes to the other side of the pool/cage.. What happens when you recall a dog and he does not respond, because there will always be something out there that is MUCH more tempting then that clicker/food/praise you offer? I will tell you what happens, he runs on the street and goes “SPLAT”!!!
Have you ever tried to put a prong on a bear or a whale? Does not work!! The worst thing that can happen is that they will not perform and you get someone else to do it. Does not work like that in real life though.
Yeah, the world may be flat, but, the reason you are not running that red light is not because you were clicker conditioned, it is because of the fear of a ticket!!
I am interested in that bridge!!!!
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