Dog Collars: Shock Collars VS Vibration Collars?

I would like to hear from those who HAVE used shock and/or vibration dog collars for obedience problems. ALL I want to know is which one was most effective for you or what your experience was ??
(to prevent biting, barking ect.)

I really do not know how I have got through a career spanning 45 years without all the gizmos, punishing equipment, spiked collars, clickers, titbits, crates and what have you. All these things are money spinners for the people who thought them up!
What is wrong with the bit of effort two or three times a day to train a dog, happily, in ten minute sessions, without punishment, with just praise, body language and contact. All you need is a good quality leather lead and collar.(perhaps a half check)
It seems to me that the biggest problem facing the modern handlers (owners) is not knowing which piece of equipment from their armoury to use to hurt their dog with on that day! A case of. “If all else fails..Try Kindness!”
If you do not know what you are doing then join a Dog Training Club! You will train under experienced supervision at reasonable cost and…who knows?…you might get to enjoy it. After all. Every person that you see on television competing at Crufts, started where you are now!
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Shocking dog collar

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